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Fighting Them Over There

Ahmad al-Rishawi, an Iraqi leader who played a major part in the Sunni Awakening in Anbar, says that he’ll gladly organize an Iraqi force in Afghanistan to hunt al-Qaida.

WASHINGTON – The leader of the tribal confederation that has fought to expel Al Qaeda from most of Iraq’s Anbar province is offering his men to help gin up a rebellion against Osama bin Laden’s organization along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border.

In an interview, told The New York Sun that in April he prepared a 47-page study on Afghanistan and its tribes for the deputy chief of mission at the American embassy in Kabul, Christopher Dell. When asked if he would send military advisers to Afghanistan to assist American troops fighting there, he said: “I have no problem with this; if they ask me, I will do it.”

al-Rishawi figures that if he can fight them over there, then he won’t have to fight them in his own country.

This strategy, of course, is modeled off of the great military minds of the George W. Bush Administration who have had great success keeping The United States of America safe since the attacks on 9/11.

“Al Qaeda is an ideology,” Sheik Ahmad said. “We can defeat them inside Iraq and we can defeat them in any country.” The tribal leader arrived in Washington last week. All of his meetings, including an audience with President Bush, have been closed to the public, in part because the Anbari sheiks, while likely to win future electoral contests, are not themselves part of Iraq’s elected government.

Of his meeting with Mr. Bush, Sheik Ahmad said he was impressed. “He is a brave man. He is also a wise man. He is taking care of the country’s future, the United States’ future. He is also taking care of the Iraqi people, the ordinary people in Iraq. He wants to accomplish success in Iraq.”

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12 Responses

  1. letterstoadyingdream says:

    Um I don’t think you are allowed to tell people these kinds of things.

    It does show the promise and the hopes of the Anbar awakening.

    maybe just maybe we aren’t losing?

  2. Konservo says:

    Um I don’t think you are allowed to tell people these kinds of things.

    Oops… I forgot. You’re right. We’re only supposed to talk about how much everyone hates the US.

  3. letterstoadyingdream says:

    Right well I do hate the Soviet Socialist Republic of New York, Does that count?

    they don’t hate America. It’s the media. As I said in a post of mine:

    My question to you is why does an old salt from the Japanese Imperial Navy have and give more respect to the American sailor or Marine then an American college student?
    Why does some guy in a bar in Singapore, Hong Kong or Sri Lanka give more respect to an American soldier then some rich kid in Berkeley?

    It’s sad but it is the truth I have seen it.

    If you don’t mind here is the link:
    http://letterstoadyingdream.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/im-sorry-america/

  4. Konservo says:

    letterstoadyingdream,

    I left this comment on your blog too:

    So you don’t like the current president, OK that is a valid. But really why do many people in America feel they can talk down, denigrate, make fun or, the people who are sworn to protect them and still fell that they deserve this protection?

    Well, I don’t know all of the various reasons, but I can say that The United States of America provides these people with the freedom to express their opinions… even if those opinions are critical of the US.

    Even more respect and credit go to U.S. Soldiers who protect the people who might be calling them names, being disrespectful or who have ideological differences.

    I am annoyed by the Blame-America-First-Crowd, but I wouldn’t want their voices to be suppressed. If they choose not to appreciate America, that’s their loss.

  5. letterstoadyingdream says:

    Oh they have the right but by what logic do they use to do it? You are right though.

    from my other reply:

    I don’t want to silence opinion. It is your right to say what you want. It was more of a question of why you would want to do so and how do you justify yourself for it. By all means feel free to say what you want. I just dislike it when people especially people that don’t have a clue degenerate the people who took an oath to protect their freedoms. You blast the politician that creates the problem not spit on the soldier who dies for it.

    It’ is out of my anger that I tell these people off not to silence them.

  6. Melanie Morgan: And I think what you’re saying is shameful and really disrespectful to our troops.

    Jon Soltz: I am the troops.

    The notion that the Left hates the military is nothing but a lie and a slander. Very often, we’re in the military, or have family members who are. One of the regulars at News Hounds is currently in Afghanistan, having previously been deployed to Iraq. Another reg recently retired from the Air Force, and yet another just came back from Afghanistan. One reg has a son in Iraq, and I have a cousin in the Green Zone. The Left plays just as large a role in the defense of the nation as does the Right, perhaps even a greater one. I have been at News Hounds a long time, and I have only seen two people express negative attitudes towards the troops. One was almost ejected from the site, and the other, an infrequent visitor, has since joined the forces of darkness over at J$’s site.

  7. letterstoadyingdream says:

    I would have to say that there is a certain part of the left that does hate the troops and America. I am not saying that the entire left does, but undeniably there are elements in the left that do.

  8. Konservo says:

    letterstoadyingdream,

    You’re right, of course, and Sergei knows that. It’s part of the far-Left’s ideology that the U.S. is an evil imperial force that tries to impose its will on other less powerful nations. Those who believe this are usually the ones we see wearing the Che t-shirts and bad-mouthing the troops.

  9. “I would have to say that there is a certain part of the left that does hate the troops and America.”

    A truly microscopic part. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, and attend UC Berkeley, and even here, people who hate America, let alone the troops, are essentially unheard of. Remember the Berkeley/Marines flap? We were every bit as outraged as the rest of the country. The only reason that the resolution was passed was that the council hadn’t read closely enough, and the councilmembers’ careers are in serious jeopardy.

    “It’s part of the far-Left’s ideology that the U.S. is an evil imperial force that tries to impose its will on other less powerful nations.”

    No, actually, it’s not. I recommend you reread Marx, Chomsky, and the rest. The Far Left does not view the world in a nationalistic framework, it views it in terms of class warfare. The “evil forces” are not a nation but a class, a class that is in control of the US, as it is in control of pretty much every other nation. It is true that the US has been a particularly — indeed, stunningly — successful imperialist force, but it is by no means the only one. Ethiopia is currently engaged in imperialist aggression against Somalia, and Colombia is currently suppressing a popular, anti-imperialist uprising. They might even interpret Turkey’s incursions into Iraq as having imperialist motivations. History is filled with a thousand squabbling empires; the problem does not lie with any one specific empire, but with the empire builders. The citizens of these empires, the proletariat, obviously cannot be blamed; they’re the ones being oppressed, not the ones doing the oppressing. As for the troops, most would probably say that they are being manipulated by the powers that be, some might be ambivalent about them, and a very small number — a microscopic minority of a microscopic minority — blame them as much as they do their masters. Consider, for example, this clip of Noam Chomsky. In it, he makes it clear that the US isn’t specifically the problem, there are authoritarian power systems everywhere, and the United States isn’t even the worst of the lot. He also distinguishes between the power systems that rule countries and the populations that compose them.

    “bad-mouthing the troops.”

    It is very important to differentiate between bad-mouthing all of the troops and bad-mouthing those that deserve it. The butchers of Haditha, for example, are murderers, and I bad-mouth all murderers. That does not mean that, for example, my classmate Stuart (who served in Iraq) is a murderer, because he isn’t one of the butchers of Haditha. Most soldiers aren’t. The interrogators and guards at Abu Ghraib, the Salt Pit, the dark prison, and elsewhere committed — and, in all likelihood, continue to commit — brutal atrocities. I bad-mouth all who commit brutal atrocities. This does not mean that, for example, my cousin (who is an interrogator in the Green Zone) commits brutal atrocities, because she isn’t at a black site. Most soldiers aren’t.Wearing the uniform does not make you exempt from deserved criticism, and criticizing those in uniform who deserve it does not mean criticizing all those in uniform.

  10. Konservo says:

    I know how the far-Left talk about the United States and the troops.

    http://djkonservo.wordpress.com/2007/11/11/hufftards-insult-veterans/

    Also, we never said that US Troops are the only soldiers that the Left hates, the US is just the particular nation that letterstoadyingdream asked about.

    A truly microscopic part

    Hopefully that others have had vaccinations.

    Sergei,

    Letters is asking a legitimate question… perhaps the Berkeley remark struck a nerve with you.

    :lol:

  11. letterstoadyingdream says:

    I will give you that some of the “troops” deserve bad mouthing. But I am not talking about those aberrant little fucks. There are people who bad mouth all the troops not just the little shits that pull something bad. You might only bad mouth the ones that deserve it but there are people that go for the gold so to speak.

    Ethiopia is just trying to help- Somalia have a functioning government something Somalia hasn’t had in years I wouldn’t call that imperialism. They might not always do the right thing but you can’t expect perfection.

    How are you defending the FARK they are drug dealers and kidnapers. Just because they don’t like the government doesn’t give them the right to do what they do. There are better ways plus if they didn’t resort to violence and drug deal there wouldn’t be a problem. None of my Columbian friends like them so I don’t really know how popular they are. Yes there are problems in the country but they would be much easier to solve if the FARK weren’t doing what they do.

    I know that Marxism is about Class Warfare and not necessarily about a certain country however while I do not agree with imperialism I disagree with Marxism even more. To me Class Warfare is pointless. Look the upper and lower classes both need each other. It should not be turned into a fight between the two when there are ways to have mutually beneficial relationship. The worker needs a job to feed his family the business man needs workers to run his business so he can feed his family. The mutual relationship of employer and employed. It isn’t supposed to be antagonistic its supposed to benefit both parties and outside certain situations in does. I make the my life benefit me as well as my abilities will let me.

    Life is like this I don’t owe anyone anything they don’t deserve and I only owe them because I alow them to. I do not believe in getting anything form anyone without earning it and I expect people to do the same. To my everyone is equal I have no more respect for the rich then I have for the poor, and I have been the latter many times in my life. To say it another way there is nothing evil about having money while there is no inherent virtue in being poor. Yes Mother Teresa was never rich and she did great things but in the same light for all his faults Andrew Carnegie spent a lot of his money (before tax write offs) building public libraries and schools to educate the nation. Many rich people do good things because they want to help other they make charities to help the poor so that the poor can rise above poverty. Teach a man to fish. That should be the way, if you know how and refuse I have no sympathy but is you don’t know how I can help. While you might bring up Marx and Chomsky I will bring up Thomas Sowell and Ayn Rand.

    Finally last time I checked the proletariat did a really good job of oppression the second they got into power, all those Black Maria’s rolling down the street.

  12. “I know how the far-Left talk about the United States and the troops.”

    You cited three out of a total of more than 600 comments. That works out to no more than 0.5%, which is, as I said, microscopic.

    You also, while criticizing HuffPo for not including information that disagreed with their conclusion, forgot to mention the other 600 odd posts, which were overwhelmingly like these:

    “I am horrified at these photographs and my heart goes out to those men and their families.The war is completely illegal and any tears bush sheds is through guilt,pure and simple.Its a digrace!!”

    “God bless those soldiers who have simply done what has been asked of them. We all need to put aside our differences and help these heroes however we can.”

    “What kind of Man is this Bush? And his children are so proud of Him? If there a statue of him. It should be of him with skulls under his feet and the injuried soldiers by his side.”

    Etc.

    “we never said that US Troops are the only soldiers that the Left hates”

    That is irrelevant. My entire point is that the Left does not hate the troops, regardless of which country they come from.

    “perhaps the Berkeley remark struck a nerve with you.”

    No, what struck a nerve was this evil animadversion that the Left hates the troops.

    “There are people who bad mouth all the troops not just the little shits that pull something bad.”

    There are some (on both the Left and the Right, I might add), but they are, as I have said, a microscopic minority.

    “Ethiopia is just trying to help”

    Bull****. The Ethiopians and the Somalis have loathed each other with a passion since the dawn of time. When Ethiopia invaded, Somalia was on the verge of stability. It’s long nightmare was almost at an end. If Somalia were to stabilize, however, then it would be in a position to challenge Ethiopia’s occupation of the Ogaden. Moreover, the dictator Zenawi needed something to distract his people from the situation at home.

    “How are you defending the FARK”

    I’m not, I’m just reporting what the Far Left believes.

    “while I do not agree with imperialism I disagree with Marxism even more.”

    So? I’m not talking about what you believe, I’m talking about what the Far Left believes.

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