UPDATE – Aug 22 – »»» The “News Rappers” Respond «««
Uh… WTF?
I guess when Bashing Bush and Re-puke-likins/Rethuglicans/Repugnants etc. is popular amongst the general public, making a song like this is only business, nothing personal. I know these “News Rappers” are just trying to make a buck, and since they aren’t very talented they need a gimmick, but still… there’s something weird about this song.
Have a listen:
“News rappers” what a joke?
If these guys want cred they need to stop rapping about T.V. news shows.
LMAO.
H/T – J$
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What the hell. Some people will do anything to get attention. Even if it means ‘inciting murder’.
Twisted.
Hey Konservo
I did not see mention of this song on Michelle’s site or on Hot Air. So I sent an e-mail to M.M. with a link to your post.
Cool, Johnny Dollar and Wired both missed the lyric about Michelle Malkin.
From what I can tell, the line is:
I see the MSM cares. NOT.
News Rappers? No more like RACIAL INTIMIDATERS. Specificly the line about Celts in the east. It does not sound like anti Celtic basketball to me. The for them to go on and elude to shooting those on the conservative side (AKA Michelle Malkin). Com’on. This is hate speach. Pure and simple. Not music, not even noise (although a definate arguable point there). It is classic hate speach. Insert the name malcom X or Louis Farrakahn and the ACLU would be all over this. Change the news outlet to CNN instead of Fox and it would be headline news.
Just another group of punks pushing their hate filled agenda and wrapping it in freedom of speach and calling it entertainment………….. NOT!
Because songs with lyrics like this are ignored by the MSM it’s not surprising that comments over at Huffpo and DKos etc. automatically blame any violence toward politicians on “The Re-thug neo-cons.” That’s what was being said about the shooting in Arkansas yesterday, for example.
But let’s all ignore stuff like this and “Ludacris’” misogynistic, hateful, and incendiary pro-Obama song.
After all, the Democratic party is the party of hope and peace/
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I bet these loons are products of the “Reverend” Jeremiah Wright’s hate church. SOOO sad!!
The left is trying to start a civil war. Thank God for the second Amendment.
More hating from the ‘tolerant’ Left!!
I like to talk about stool.
wow that song is messed up. Did you see the new site. Littlegreenfootballs2.com
Konservo,
Im gonna dust up my rapping skills. You make the beats and lets make a diss song of Olbermman and Think Progress!
This is very, very bad.
It’s common in rap for different rappers to battle each other, but in that case it’s within the realm of hip-hop. Usually both rappers involved see an increase in sales due to the publicity.
That said, recently we have seen songs by Ludacris and Nas which, although they were only intended to support Barack Obama, were insulting to other politicians as well as misogynist and violent. Nas went so far as to stage a protest outside of the FOXNews building in New York.
This seems to be a new trend. I hope things don’t get ugly.
“I hope things don’t get ugly.”
I’d say it’s a tad late for that. Three liberals already lie dead due to politically motivated violence, and I got to call the North Bergen Police Department earlier today to report a death threat that was made against one of the people who run News Hounds. Now, it seems, some of this sentiment is spreading to the Left.
I don’t mean to trivialize any politically motivated violence that has already occurred, however, when I said “ugly,” I was thinking of situations where propaganda was incorporated into pop music, for example, in Rwanda leading up to the 1994 genocide.
These lyrics:
Sound like the type of thing “Hutu power” groups used to sing.
That’s sort of what I meant, too.
He called O’Reilly a “Borderline Rapist” what the hell is that supposed to mean?
Yeah the song is basically incitement to murder someone and is sick. What ever happened to a civil disagreement in politics? We aren’t the Soviet Union or some banana republic we don’t kill our political opponents. Has the left just lost it?
“What ever happened to a civil disagreement in politics?”
Reality. Civil disagreement went out the window while the ink on the Constitution was still wet.
“We aren’t the Soviet Union or some banana republic we don’t kill our political opponents.”
Up until quite recently, that was true.
“Has the left just lost it?”
I hope not, but if so, it’s following the Right’s lead. Conservatives have been advocating violence for years, and now have started to actually act on their threats.
“We aren’t the Soviet Union or some banana republic we don’t kill our political opponents.”
“Up until quite recently, that was true.”
And we did that when?
“I hope not, but if so, it’s following the Right’s lead. Conservatives have been advocating violence for years, and now have started to actually act on their threats.”
When did the right start advocating the murder of political opponents? Don’t bring up the death penalty that’s a different issue and you know it.
Sergei,
What are you talking about?
The only really politically motivated assassination of a politician, that I can think of, was that of Abraham Lincoln. More recently, however, their was the religiously motivated assassination of RFK by Sirhan Sirhan… other than that I agree with Letters, in the United States we don’t advocate the assassination of political adversaries, this “song” is one of the first of it’s kind along with the Ludacris and Nas songs.
“And we did that when?”
July 27, 2008, and August 13, 2008.
“When did the right start advocating the murder of political opponents?”
Ann Coulter did quite a while ago; there may have been earlier incidents.
I was actually driving back from Indiana (to Virginia) all day on the 27th so I don’t know what you’re referring to… I did find this however, is that what you mean?
As for the Gwatney incident, the shooter seems to have been an apolitical loner. My guess is that he would have shot any politician Republican or Democrat.
“I don’t know what you’re referring to”
I was referring to the shooting that left two of your coreligionists dead and seven wounded.
“the shooter seems to have been an apolitical loner. My guess is that he would have shot any politician Republican or Democrat.”
You guess wrong. He specifically sought out Gwatney. Why? I’ll let Sean Hannity’s buddy, Hal Turner, explain:
The above is from his website, which goes offline tomorrow when Turner formally begins his terrorist campaign. I’m going to have something on my blog about this.
but he did lose his marbles before going after Gwatney…
and it appears he bought cars from the Gwatneys
Admittedly, car deals can be shady, but I wouldn’t exactly call them political.
And that nutjob who shot up the TVUUC, was bitter, crazy, hated practically everybody, an alcoholic, and shot up the church his EX-WIFE had attended for years. To me, that sounds a lot more personal than political even if he did toss in an “I hate gays and liberals” to go with it.
Hmmm… I see.
I googled the site (thanks for not linking, btw). I stand corrected on that matter, that guy is a Right-wing fascist that advocates violence toward his political opponents. There’s no room for him in American politics.
But I’m still not so sure that the wave of rap songs is taking the lead from the guy Turner. It’s even worse to think that this type of hatred sprang up on both sides in isolation and was not the result of an escalating dispute (in which case, one would think, the rappers and Hal Turner would target each other).
It’s bizarre that so-called “Libertarians” (like Ron Paul and this Hal Turner guy) are either good friends with racists and fascists or are in fact racist fascists themselves… or both, of course. The principals of “Libertarianism” (which is a name for something like real liberalism) are opposed to any kind of prejudice and blind hatred toward other citizens.
“But I’m still not so sure that the wave of rap songs is taking the lead from the guy Turner.”
I wasn’t suggesting they were.
“I hope not, but if so, it’s following the Right’s lead. Conservatives have been advocating violence for years, and now have started to actually act on their threats.”
But you did say this Sergi, so they might not be talking Turner’s lead but you still say they are taking the lead from the right wing.
“Ann Coulter did quite a while ago; there may have been earlier incidents.”
I know Coulter advocated the the killing of foreign leaders but it’s not like that isn’t part of the whole being at war thing, she’s has also made jokes about killing people that you could say where inappropriate but they where jokes not advocacy for murder.
First of all the rappers are white and they rap with blacks so there not racist. Also this is the first song they have done about TV or the news so everybody needs to check there backround before you start talking next time.
East Side Avenger,
Too late, these guys are clowns and I’ve dubbed them “News Rappers.” It’s a new genre like “Gangsta Rap” only totally not cool.
OMG that song is the shit. Mad props to esoteric. Fuck Bill and fuck all you little babies crying over a song. Grow some balls.
WTF? When did freedom of speech become a target for this election… If you odn’t like what the people have to say…. Don’t listen….. Simple as that… THat’s what REGULAR PEOPLE do… Not sit on blogs and talk about it…. GET A LIFE PEOPLE ! ! ! !
Nor do you have to read what people write.
This “News rappers” stuff is bullshit. You people dont understand what rap came from do you? It came from the struggles of the underprivileged. Rap originated as a politically oriented genre, so when you say “news rappers” you only exhibit your unbridled ignorance of rap music in general, but that is a typical trait of conservatives anyways right? You never have any idea what you are talking about, so you resort to spitting facts that are complete bullshit. In fact, 100% of conservative right-wingers use baseless arguments to support their uninformed opinions. Try those figures on for size, you hypocrites.
Damn Good Song!
“you only exhibit your unbridled ignorance of rap music in general, but that is a typical trait of conservatives anyways right?”
Look at the name of the site.
Speaking of DJs, I don’t think I’ve shown you this, Konservo.
Sergei,
I love the sign at about 3:17.
The *general* trend of the comments on this thread have been interesting. At first it was folks from Michelle Malkin’s link who were (understandibly) outraged. Then came hard-core racists (who have been deleted) who were most certainly not from Malkin’s site (for obvious reasons). I even had to delete some of their comments. Now it’s folks defending the song and criticizing the critics.
K.B.,
“Rap” music came as an extension of funk and classic rock. Inner city DJs would sample classic funk songs while vocalists “rapped” new verses. I think Jean-Paul Sartre said once “All writing is political” the same can be said about song lyrics. As for my calling them “news rappers,” that was just me poking fun. I’m sure they have other songs with a variety of topics, but you only get one first impression and theirs has been via a rap song of the genre “news rap.” As I said above, that can’t be good for their street cred.
alright all u people need to get your facts straight esoteric isnt a “new rapper” he has been around since the early 90’s and its a politically charged song that is just utilizing the right to free speech , it means no harm just an attention song that u guys are feeding into
No, no, Mitchy B. ya’ got it all wrong.
Not new rappers! NEWS rappers!
“utilizing the right to free speech”?
Was he or was he not advocating the murder of two people? Even if it is free speech this is a very fine line. If it is a joke or sarcasm then yes it’s free speech but if they are seriously advocating murder then it’s not. There is a big difference.
I had to read your response several times Konservo, but you aren’t even addressing what I’m saying. Perhaps all writing is political, but in that case I’m pretty sure there is a distinct difference between talking about cars and women, and rapping about actual political events or politicians themselves. The fact that Rap music originated from funk and classic rock is not only debatable (lots of people think it came from Ska) but irrelevant. I’m talking about the content of the lyrics, not the method of making a beat.
I still can’t tell from what you said if you think the phrase “news rap” actually means anything, or it’s just a tool to piss people off. If you still think it actually means anything, you must be an idiot. Apparently rapping about anything political or timely is worthy of your contempt. You seem to think that politically based rap is a cheap gimmick or something along those lines. Have you ever heard of Grandmaster Melle Mel? Look him up.
And in response to Sergei, simply making a webpage with the words “D” and “J”, doesn’t mean shit. If I make a website called D.J. K.B. does that make me an instant expert on hip-hop music?
K.B.,
When people call these guys “news rappers” it’s kind of like calling Snoop and Dre “gangsta rappers.” That’s all there is too it. It’s not because their subject matter is “political” or “timely,” it’s because they are rapping about Bill O’Reilly, Michelle Malkin (even though she quit the show), FOX News and Media Matters and they use samples of Keith Olbermann.
And, I’ll repeat, yes, when I call them “news rappers” I’m clowning on them.
What a great american protest song. We need more songs like this. The song is so honest and gives the American people great ideas.
What a great american protest song. We need more songs like this. The song is so honest and gives the American people great ideas. The rappers arent saying anything about Bill that Bill wasnt said about others or worse. The man is racist and I wish someone would put an end to some of these conservatives.
Well Natalie march us off to the Gulags.
Natalie,
Thanks for clarifying your post. At first I thought you were being sarcastic.
this isnt a trend. this is an uprising of truth and a deviation from our sound private minds. this kind of rap has reaped the underground for years and our just now getting publicity, but this is what they been about, CORRUPTION in our lives.
the mainstream has the upper hand by having the masses by the ballsac, and smearing any dissenters with slanderous irrelevant terms.
when will dissent be awarded?
when we go against the will of the people to attack IRAN?!
wake the fuck up
russo-
That’s good. Inciting murder is not a positive trend.
Umm… wtf?
In case you missed it, the rappers in question are utterly ridiculous. It is difficult to smear someone with the truth.
Excellent advice. Perhaps you should consider it.
“And in response to Sergei, simply making a webpage with the words “D” and “J”, doesn’t mean shit. If I make a website called D.J. K.B. does that make me an instant expert on hip-hop music?”
No, but it does make it probable that you like rap music.
If you did one minute of research before you blindly used this song as another excuse to spout off the same old generic propaganda you would find out that this song is not a threat or “advocating murder” or wah wah wah… Esoteric has released hundereds of songs over the last 10+ years that are all anti-violence. He has never claimed to be a “thug” or “gangsta” or tried to attract “street cred”. This is not a publicity stunt, he is a well established veteran artists who is mearly speaking his mind the same as he has for over a decade.
This particular song is a very simple play on words (the Kill Bill movies) directed at a public figure with the same first name (Bill O’Reilly) you following along? I know you will point out the 3 lines (you previously quoted) from the song, which are obviously the only ones that you understand, but there is a very articulate and legitimate message in the rest of the lyrics which is obviously lost on simple minds who are slow to learn and quick to judge.
By the way Myspace has started a ridiculous censorship campaign against this song thanks to FOX… R.I.P. Freedom of Speech. Trust me there is PLENTY of white supremacist, pro-Al Qaeda, pro-nazi, ect… hate speech on Myspace which goes completely uncensored… nice priorities. So don’t use the tired “hate speech” angle here.
P.S. Check out the new East Coast Avengers track “Dear Michelle”! I know its waaaay over your heads but hey its worth a shot to try and listen to it. Good Luck!
“We gotta get ‘em, get ‘em.
We gotta chill ‘em, chill e’m.
We gotta get ‘em, get ‘em.
We gotta kill ‘em, kill ‘em.”
So that was just a play on words not an incitement to kill?
Yeah the “Dear Michelle” song was really good in the “I’m a prissy little bitch and want to cry allot” kind of way. Sounds more like the guys are all but hurt someone didn’t like their sorry excuse for a song.
“She oughta be shot” is not a play on words.
We get upset when Ann Coulter calls for a judge to be assassinated. Is it that difficult to apply the same standard to one of our own?
Sorry I wanted to say “Butt Hurt”.
Congatulations “letterstoadyingdream” you managed to point out one of the lines previously quoted! You deserve some sort of repetition award! Again the message is completely lost as you regurgetate something you just read a few comments ago without any interjection of original thought. You should be proud!
Congratulations you apparently don’t understand what a question is. I ask the question if that is or is not an incitement to kill. You get angry at me for reading a comment/quote and replying to it on a board and then yell at me for it. So is that an incitement to kill or just a play on words? Can you answer that? Or is that a little bit hard for you to do though your apparent rage at simple questions?
Sorry DJ I’m Feeding the troll.
“letterstoadyingdream” you’re obviously locked away in some blog reading dungeon where calling someone a “troll” is the epitomy of a witty response. You’ve got a long way to go before I engage in any sort of real discourse with you. Good luck with the English language.
Yes iz in me little dungeon spending much time on teh interwebs not speeky teh engrish much. I will try to be more witty next time if you try to say something intelligent.
Your still kinda cute though
Anybody who defends Bill O’Reilly might as well defend hitler.
I think you have forgotten Godwin’s Law.
Reductio ad Hitlerum
ok, fair enough. But bill O’Rielly is still a ignorant pice of shit.
Dont through that bullshit at me. Dont try to look smart with your latin faggotry.
This is for Michelle. Look you are not the first person to get dissed by a rapper nor will you be the last but throwing a moody over it is not the right thing to do. It is giving the song more “cred” as you put it. The thing is is you have never lived outside of your life style and circle. When Americans are in need of jobs and health care, the current polocies grant out sourcing jobs to foriegn nations with chaper labor. While in our own country we have plenty of immigrants that don’t speak english to take those jobs and give the english speaking less edgucated americans those opportunities, which then gives more opportunity to the more edgucated americans to feed thier families and so on… Do you see where this is going there is alot at stake and the persons that have been in office and aregoing to be managing this nation are all subject to the media and what the media says about them. they make dumb choices to please everyone and none of them have the gutts to speak out due to our media grabbing on to what they said and manipulating it and showing it to the american people in a negative way just to make money, or in the case that is could make money for the company making it sound better even if it is a bad idea. I think that you see where this is going. No longer does the media report the news it creates it, and your superficial views neglect the majority of americans that make the products that you use daily including what will be oon your plate this evening at that nice business dinner that you have been invited to. So good luck to you and your teleprompted views as you are not an american until you have felt what it is like to belive in something and you myfriend don’t seem to belive in anything other than your almighty dollar and you mildly influential circle. Good day. ; )
I believe the word is throw not through, just in case you wanted to know about that.
I don’t look smart enough? I didn’t know you knew what I looked like.
ok… esoteric has been makin song such as this for years, from dangerous connection to dc2- bars of death he always spoke on touchy subjects.. hence the reason he has a SONG called “touchy Subjects” its the retarded people in america that overreact to a song . Bill O Reilly has had his fair share of fueds wityh rappers . for example nas and ludacris. This isnt the first time with him, but everytime something happens and he entices an argument he doesnt allow for a comment back he just interrupts with lawyers and hides behind his desk with his dick in between his legs. and michelle malkin has no voice in this matter. The eastcoast avengers are just doing what eminem did with his song “mosh” and did he catchany flack for it?
Here ya go Mitchy: RE: Mitchy B « Dj Konservo
I think all that needs to be said has been said by all sides of this argument. No one is advocating censorship and no one wants to see any violence perpetrated, but there’s nothing wrong with criticizing a song.
ok… .konservo good review i guess but what u have to look at is that when there r sayin kill michelle malkin they arent talking literally kill her with weapons but with words and through the media its not literal violence but professing the violence that the overdramatic media conveys. o reilly tends to go overboard we all can agree and many people have taken a stand esoteric and the avengers simply took a stand through music no harm no foul…
I understand that. It’s common in rap, for example, Last Wordz (2pac feat. Ice-T, and Ice-Cube):
Pac:
But there are some who will not understand these lyrics figuratively, namely the folks who will take these things seriously.
What’s to be said? No one except a few neo-Nazis and neo-Cons would be sorry if O’Reilly choked on a chicken bone.
ric thanks for going with the neo-Nazi thing you have apparently missed the thing about Godwin’s law or Reductio ad Hitlerum.
So you don’t like O’Reilly fair enough but why do you think his support is from neo-Nazi’s? Can you argue that or are you just going with the Ad hominem attack and assuming everyone will agree and not ask questions?
The entire premise that the East Coast Avengers use to justify their hatred of O’Reilly is a reductio ad Hitlerum.
True it’s all propaganda and hate. At the risk of doing the same thing who else used hate filled propaganda to advance their cause?
I also forgot about the Argumentum ad populum fallacy when talking to Ric.
Anyway if you talk about free speech it is a requirement of it for the person to take responsibility for what they say. Yes it’s not your fault if people take you out of context and do things they shouldn’t but it’s also your responsibility to say things that make sense. If you say “someone needs to kill this person” and don’t actually mean that you want that person dead you better have said something to qualify that statement otherwise it looks like you are requesting the murder of someone. Lets be honest if these guys don’t really want O’Reilly to die then they picked the worst way of saying it. It might be their lack or education or whatever it doesn’t matter they said something stupid. Now I don’t think that they don’t have a right to say what they want but if they are advocating murder then that is not part of free speech if they said it as a joke then is is a bad joke but it is their right to make bad jokes. The problem is that nothing they said sounded like they where joking. Now anyone that listens to them and does it and tries to use that as an excuse for their actions is basically using the “Twinkie Defense” and is a moron.
Okay now. I understand that alot of rap is violent for no right reason. But if you think that Mr. O’reilly isnt crooked, better yet if you think alot of men in the government havent actually commited atrocities you are not being honest to yourself. Maybe people are reaching a point where we must take things to extremes to wake everyone up. On a side note, there IS some positive rap out there. If you dont like rap dont listen to it, just keep your ignorant comments to yourself!
Well, maybe that’s the very justification used by “alot of men in the government” who have “actually commited atrocities.”
I like rap. I’m criticizing this song as one who enjoys rap music.
Sound advice.
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i think this is a great song, i fuckkin hate Bill O’Reilly and i hope this neo con bastard burns in hell. This is the bastard who was bush’s dick monkey for the media, this guy tried to emulate to the american people about the war in Iraq. He hates muslims and i hate his filthy face and his stupid show. So hopefully someone can make some better songs spittin at this piece of shit for nothing failed anchor.
lol i bet one or two of you work at mcdonalds flipping burgers too…
Uhh… what?
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