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TP Comment Trickery

Here are screen shots of the blog “ThinkProgress” which is run by the Center for American Progress (a Clinton/Soros project).

Here is my comment when I am signed in,

toilet-paper3.png

It looks just like any other comment (except for the America and Israel hating) but when I sign out…

Ta da!

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It’s gone! This means that I’m being censored without even knowing it. While I think my comments are merely being ignored by the other posters, in reality nobody can see my words but me when I’m logged in.

UPDATE: For those who might still be wondering about Clinton’s and Soros’s involvement with the CAP and TP, here’s some more info on the Center for American Progress

The Center for American Progress (CAP) describes itself as “a nonpartisan research and educational institute” aimed at “developing a long-term vision of a progressive America” and “providing a forum to generate new progressive ideas and policy proposals.”Robert Dreyfuss reports in the March 1, 2004 edition of The Nation: “The idea for the Center began with discussions in 2002 between [Morton] Halperin and George Soros, the billionaire investor. … Halperin, who heads the office of Soros’ Open Society Institute, brought [former Clinton chief of staff [John] Podesta into the discussion, and beginning in late 2002 Halperin and Podesta circulated a series of papers to funders.”

[...]Persistent press leaks confirm that Hillary Clinton, and not Podesta, is ultimately in charge of CAP. “It’s the official Hillary Clinton think tank,” an inside source confided to Christian Bourge of United Press International. Robert Dreyfuss notes in The Nation, “In looking at Podesta’s center, there’s no escaping the imprint of the Clintons. It’s not completely wrong to see it as a shadow government, a kind of Clinton White-House-in-exile — or a White House staff in readiness for President Hillary Clinton.” Dreyfuss notes the abundance of Clintonites on the Center’s staff, among them Clinton’s national security speechwriter Robert Boorstin; Democratic Leadership Council staffer and former head of Clinton’s National Economic Council Gene Sperling; former senior advisor to Clinton’s Office of Management and Budget Matt Miller; and others.

[...]

The Center for American Progress: Soros funded, Clinton approved.

The Democrats agree, liberals need their politics pre-chewed and spoon-fed.

40 responses

  1. Edo

    Stalin’s retouched phtotos meet Orwell’s
    rewritten newsprint.

    No surprise.

    Reducing the number of words that are thinkable
    reduces the ability to think (dangerously).

    November 24, 2007 at 5:52 pm

  2. Stevie Nichts

    It is a despicable trick, and it is right & proper to see it exposed, but let
    us be clear that this is not ‘censorship’ — only the government can censor.
    Private publications (including websites) are under no obligation to suffer
    comments with which they do not agree. Let us not make the same mistake
    as our friends on the left, who often conflate the two concepts.

    That said, what does it say about ThinkProgress that they feel the need to
    resort to such cowardly chicanery? They should have the courage to stand up
    for their convictions.

    November 24, 2007 at 6:55 pm

  3. What does it say about the left that it loves censorship?

    November 24, 2007 at 6:04 pm

  4. Cambio de Orden

    TP has great technosavvy — they leave trolls talking to themselves!

    Brilliant!

    November 24, 2007 at 6:10 pm

  5. Stevie Nichts,

    It is true that TP is under no obligation to post my (or anybody’s)
    comments, and while it’s not government sanctioned censorship,
    it still fits every definition of censorship that I have seen:

    to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered
    objectionable ; also : to suppress or delete as objectionable

    http://www.m-w.com/dictionary

    This is what I meant when I used that word.

    November 24, 2007 at 7:13 pm

  6. Insufficiently Sensitive

    “It is a despicable trick, and it is right & proper to see it
    exposed, but let us be clear that this is not ‘censorship’ — only
    the government can censor.”

    Cute argument, but it supports a clear case of intellectual fraud.
    Blogs with comments give the impression that a range of opinions
    is displayed, and that a debate is in progress. If civil expressions
    of viewpoints unwelcome to the site administrator are to be deleted,
    honesty would require that a clear statement be made on the blog
    to that effect – that it’s an echo chamber, not a site for sincere
    discussion.

    November 24, 2007 at 7:36 pm

  7. Cambio,

    I bet you checked to make sure your comments were getting through, didn’t you?

    Don’t lie!

    November 24, 2007 at 6:48 pm

  8. ContraJihide

    So, the little Stalins have found a new airbrush. This is a surprise?

    November 24, 2007 at 8:07 pm

  9. Dennis D

    I thought they tracked IP addresses too.
    I was blocked from registering on Malkins website when a
    message appeared claiming my IP address was blocked.
    I have no idea why. I am a respectable conservative ( We all are).
    I never use profanity etc,

    November 24, 2007 at 9:38 pm

  10. Dennis,

    Regardless of the reason for your registration being blocked,
    at least you were told that it was. TP and the SF Chronicle
    aren’t telling folks that their comments have been deleted,
    and in fact, the comments remain visible to the logged-in poster.

    It would be as if you were still able to post at MM, but no one
    would be able to see what you wrote and you would be
    none the wiser.

    November 24, 2007 at 9:54 pm

  11. Um, Konservo? Aren’t you the one who once said,
    “WE HAVE ALMOST SHUT TP DOWN!”?
    Are you surprised they don’t want you posting there?

    November 24, 2007 at 10:39 pm

  12. Aren’t you the one who once said,
    “WE HAVE ALMOST SHUT TP DOWN!”?

    I don’t recall.
    8)

    Are you surprised they don’t want you posting there?

    No, that’s not point of this post. In fact, this page
    originally started out as a means of transferring the
    screen shots to someone here:

    SF Chronicles Sneaky Comment Deletion Trick -Update- ThinkProgress is Doing It Too

    But then I thought,
    ‘Hey, I might as well throw some text in for
    explanatory purposes and make a post out of it.’

    For more information on this follow the links in the LGF
    post above, and check out this site: Investigate the Media

    November 24, 2007 at 10:54 pm

  13. 29Victor

    Libs censor every chance they get.

    They shout down and assault conservative speakers
    on college campuses. They try to get conservative
    talk show host thrown off of the air.

    Go to digg.com and see what the libs do there.
    Try posting a link to a conservative article or posting
    conservative comments and see how long it takes to get
    “dugg down” to oblivion. Heck, I once commented about
    school vouchers (pro) on a Utah newspaper’s website that
    allowed “down digging.” Not a single one of my comments
    about vouchers was responded to, but every one was
    “dugg down” untill it reached “hidden” status or below.

    Libs are frightning. If they get full control of the government
    they will institute the “fairness docterine” and probably start
    making laws like those in Canada and England that restrict criticizing
    “protected groups.” Reciently I saw a lib on T.V. twist and convolute
    the First Ammendment until it made religious expression illegal…
    and she was completly serious.

    November 24, 2007 at 11:14 pm

  14. Peach

    Remember extreme liberal Jane Hamsher’s hit squad going
    after the Washington Post for deleting profanity laced
    vitriol she incited? They deleted redundant profanity laced
    nonsense inspired by extremist Hamsher all the while she
    was deleting comments on her own site that dare politely
    to point out her wholesale innate hypocrisy? Hamsher tightly
    controls her delicate readers from ANY dissent in tupperware.
    Hamsher likes to control and she’s afraid of her readers seeing
    her challenged. AKA Jane Hamsher is a fascist a book burner.

    Think Progress is not a blog. It’s a Soros funded shadow coordinating
    with Media Matters. Look at their post “headlines” they read exactly
    like the tax fraudulent Media Matters – they read from a script –
    they get memo marching orders.

    November 25, 2007 at 1:10 am

  15. EF

    Hilarious!
    The same people who support LGF and RedState
    banning comments supporting Ron Paul are going
    to piss and moan when another publication does the same?

    While these publications have just as much a right to do so
    as RedState, it is just as much a shame that ThinkProgress
    is blocking your comments as RedState is blocking others.

    This is why we need to support liberty and reject authoritarianism
    — you never know when the old guard you support is replaced
    by the new guard out to get you.

    November 25, 2007 at 4:23 am

  16. Question: Why do you guys automatically assume that each
    and every liberal blog, organization, book club, etc.
    is funded by George Soros?

    November 25, 2007 at 11:46 am

  17. Sue

    For me personally, I could care less.
    Sites like the SFChron or TP and their ilk. don’t interest me.
    I never visit much less comment there. Waste of my time.
    There is so much more on the Net than this that it is impossible
    for me to stay on stop of all the sites I enjoy.

    November 25, 2007 at 11:55 am

  18. Do you have a link to the TP thread in question?

    November 25, 2007 at 11:09 am

  19. Cambio de Orden

    Sue,

    I know, Israeli propaganda is made fresh each morning.
    Who needs logic and reason (TP and SFChron)
    when you have AIPAC newsletters?

    [Edited - by site manager]

    November 25, 2007 at 12:39 pm

  20. Insufficiently Sensitive posts regarding StevieNichts comment–

    ((“It is a despicable trick, and it is right & proper
    to see it exposed, but let us be clear that this is not ‘censorship’ —
    only the government can censor.”

    Cute argument, but it supports a clear case of intellectual fraud.
    Blogs with comments give the impression that a range of opinions
    is displayed, and that a debate is in progress. If civil expressions
    of viewpoints unwelcome to the site administrator are to be deleted,
    honesty would require that a clear statement be made on the blog
    to that effect – that it’s an echo chamber, not a site for sincere
    discussion.))

    You said “cute argument”, but then went on to fail to disprove it.

    INcoherent.

    The argument is correct– it is not censorship when a private publication
    defrauds readers participating in good faith. It’s just dishonesty, of
    the kind that will destroy their reputation once it is sufficiently known.

    And judging by the sales figures and readership figures, they can’t
    afford to do more damage to their reputation; but here it is.

    They care more about making dishonest political wins of the
    microscopic variety than they care about their reputation.

    The long goodbye, as they say….

    November 25, 2007 at 1:53 pm

  21. Those hater sites are doing to free speech what the libs
    want to do to your health care. It would “appear” as if
    you have it, but in reality it wouldn’t be there when you
    need it. As in England, Canada, et al.

    November 25, 2007 at 2:26 pm

  22. ChenZhen Says -

    Do you have a link to the TP thread in question?

    Certainly.

    http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/24/bush-ally-defeated-in-australian-elections/

    Sergei Andropov Says:
    Question: Why do you guys automatically assume that each and
    every liberal blog, organization, book club, etc. is funded by
    George Soros?

    I don’t know about every book club, etc.
    but in this case one need not assume. I’ve linked to the
    relevant pages from Discovery the Networks and Wikipedia above.

    November 25, 2007 at 2:39 pm

  23. Well, that is quite sneaky indeed.
    I logged in and your comment was still missing.
    Have you been banned from the site altogether,
    or just the comment deletion?

    November 25, 2007 at 3:30 pm

  24. Cambio de Orden

    ChenZhen,

    The thug has long been banned! He spammed TP’s precious threads daily!

    November 25, 2007 at 3:38 pm

  25. Have you been banned from the site altogether, or just the comment deletion?

    No, I can still recommend and report comments.

    November 25, 2007 at 4:19 pm

  26. No, I can still recommend and report comments.

    Interesting.
    I don’t visit the comments section of TP very often,
    but to me that seems a little odd.
    Almost as if it were a glitch.

    November 25, 2007 at 6:46 pm

  27. Seems like it’s a common glitch on lefty sites.
    Oh, and LGF and RedState banning Paul spammers is not
    exactly the same as banning all comments by someone,
    for no reason, with no warning. I fail to see the similarities.
    Please throw your tantrums elsewhere!

    November 26, 2007 at 6:06 pm

  28. vermontdave

    Mr. P,
    This is slightly off-topic, but my one and only post at
    Free Republic got me banned. It was a harmless question,
    but got flagged immediately.
    I understand that your point is about not realizing
    you’ve been deleted, but comment sections anywhere
    on the Internets are run by their own rules, and that’s good!

    ps,
    You’ve never heard of ‘Troll-Whacker’? ;)

    November 26, 2007 at 6:53 pm

  29. This is slightly off-topic

    Indeed. I’ve been ‘banned’ ;) several times from several blogs,
    sometimes it was warranted, others not. But at most blogs,
    News Hounds for example, if I am banned I am told that
    I will not be able to make comments.

    November 26, 2007 at 8:45 pm

  30. jummy

    progressives oppose free speech and hold the idea of an open society
    based on pluralistic institutions in contempt. progressives are fascists,
    just as the fascists were progressives.

    November 30, 2007 at 8:21 pm

  31. PubliusJr

    This sort of behavior by the Lefties on the
    ‘Net/Blogosphere is part of a larger pattern.

    They call people racists, sexists, bigots, etc. in order to
    frighten them away from saying what they think. They
    claim people are paid-off by Big Oil if they speak out against
    global warming promoters. Then they call them fringe kooks
    by comparing them to Holocaust deniers.
    The Libs running the universities deny them a place to speak
    on the grounds of security, or charge ridiculous fees.
    They throw pies, salad dressing, and more at speakers who
    don’t get the hint. They chant, scream, yell, and threaten
    anybody who is speaking who is to the right of Michael Moore
    in order to shut down their speeches.

    These tactics are not the tactics of a rational political party
    that wants to engage in a debate. Rather, they are the tactics
    that N@zi Brownshirts used to disrupt opposition meetings.
    The Left, in their desire to silence the opposition, has become
    the modern-day incarnation of the N@zi party.

    All I can say is: Thank God (and Al Gore,) for the Internet.
    Now, we have blogs like this, and dozens of others, to keep
    an eye on these fanatical Lefties so they can’t get away
    with this kind of garbage for too long.

    December 12, 2007 at 2:24 am

  32. Idetrorce

    very interesting, but I don’t agree with you
    Idetrorce

    December 15, 2007 at 11:24 am

  33. Idetrorce,

    Who don’t you agree with? PubliusJr?

    I wouldn’t call the Soros-Clinton team N@zis because of this,
    but it is an underhanded move to suppress dissent.
    They could have at least told people that they were banned,
    why did they have to trick them?

    (it takes several more lines of code to program a
    trick like this, so it’s not just a little glitch)

    December 15, 2007 at 5:29 pm

  34. Don’t be worry about Idetrorce. Something tells me this one won’t respond. Check the identical comment left over at Ed’s blog.

    December 16, 2007 at 2:22 am

  35. Rafael

    >Something tells me this one won’t respond.

    You losers conflate blog comments with your inane IM masturbation.
    These posts are supposed to be comments, not conversations.
    But it won’t keep you putzs from claiming that you ‘won’ a debate
    you’re having with yourself only because your pathetic post is the
    last in the string. Get a life.

    December 20, 2007 at 11:05 am

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  39. Dragunov

    TP and its nasty community of posters are not interested in anyone who isn’t drinking their Kool-Aid. I calmly and respectfully disagreed often with some of the most vile, abusive and repugnant posters. For this I was stealth-banned in the same cowardly way. TP folks really don’t take well to having their far left cocoon shaken.

    April 7, 2008 at 7:50 pm

  40. xxxx4

    I too was stealth banned and I’m a liberal. Seems that the anal retentive posters and moderators even discriminate between liberal opinions. Stealth banning is almost Orwellian.

    November 22, 2008 at 2:48 am

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